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Howard Carter's avatar

"The whole gospel of Karl Marx can be summed up in a single sentence:

Hate the man who is better off than you are.

Never under any circumstances admit that his success may be due to his own

efforts, to the productive contribution he has made to the whole community.

Always attribute his success to the exploitation, the cheating, the more or

less open robbery of others. Never under any circumstances admit that

your own failure may be owing to your own weakness, or that the failure of

anyone else may be due to his own defects--his laziness, incompetence,

improvidence, or stupidity."

-Henry Hazlitt

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HamburgerToday's avatar

Hazlitt obviously knows (knew) very little about Marx or what his 'gospel was' even though it's right there in the Communist Manifesto:

'Workers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains.'

As for Hazlitt, he was a mouthpiece at the Wall Street Journal during the heyday of economic collapse from the very policies he advocated. He was a hack for the rich and fan of Social Darwinism.

His 'individualism' is absurd and lazy. But typical of apologists for capitalist accumulation.

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Steve (recovering lawyer)'s avatar

Your analysis of the left as a perverse remnant of Christianity is the result of your failure to understand Christianity. You have created your own version of Christianity and then you proceed to criticize that straw man. I would urge you to undertake a serious study of the reality of Biblical Christianity.

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Hollis Brown's avatar

I don’t think he’s creating a straw man of Christianity. his point is that American Progressivism (that has it’s roots in Protestantism), has completely divorced God from it’s social project to create the Kingdom of Heaven here on earth. Socialism, Marxism, Progressivism are all manifestations of Christianity without Christ. the last shall come first and the first shall come last could be described as the original ethos of the left wing parties, but without the Divine, it breeds resentment and eventually a Hell on earth.

not to mention using all of our money for their grandiose projects...

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John k's avatar

lol. There r as many different versions of Christianity as there is Socialism. I believe though that during different periods of US history various reform movements were spearheaded by religious groups. Prohibition is one obvious case. That is where the similarities may exist.

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James's avatar

Lol that's like saying there's many different answers to a mathematical equation. There may be hundreds of answers but only one correct one. In this case it's simple: identify the church that has been around since Christ himself.

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alexsyd's avatar

Trouble is, progressives, Marxists, etc., never mention Christianity. What they yell about all the time is their rights. Neither ancient Greeks, the Bible nor Jesus mentioned something called human rights. And the sacred victims never shut up about their privilege without obligation, i.e., rights.

And if you think I'm wrong about human rights, please read this from Philanthropy Today (https://www.philanthropy.com/article/as-usaid-is-gutted-heres-how-philanthropy-can-stop-panicking-and-start-helping):

"Paired with an onslaught of executive orders from President Trump taking aim at racial justice, trans rights, immigration, and reproductive rights, USAID’s planned closure has deeply shaken organizations fighting for human rights around the world.

"In response, foundations are receiving an influx of requests for crisis grants from nonprofits facing a sudden loss of U.S. funding for long-standing work, as well as from groups shoring up resistance to the Trump administration’s anti-human rights agenda."

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Hollis Brown's avatar

I agree. I’m not saying that Progressives and Marxists would ever acknowledge the correlation to Christianity in their ideology. I’m only pointing out that they came from a mostly protestant, European background that formed the original ideas that lead to these movements in the beginning.

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alexsyd's avatar

Or it could be genetic temperment. After all, the French behind the Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen were, I assume, from a Catholic background.

There were also the Brethren of the Free Spirit, the Beguines and Beghards, the Ranters, and so forth that developed before Martin Luther. They were all sort of proto-liberal, and Northern European.

So, it’s possible that Protestantism grew naturally out of a genetic, Germanic spiritual predisposition.

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Hollis Brown's avatar

good point, although my knowledge of german history/society is pretty basic.

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HamburgerToday's avatar

You've created your own version of 'christianity' that you pretend has no part in 'bad stuff'. Which is exactly what *every* 'christian' apologist has done for the last 50 years.

'Biblical Christianity' doesn't exist. The 'Bible' is a text. It cannot read itself or interpret itself or enact itself. What you mean by 'Biblical Christianity' is *whatever you want it to mean*.

It's obvious 'christians' don't understand that their 'religion' simply isn't.

With hundreds of sects - and hundreds of interpretations of their 'sacred text'- they only 'binding' they do is Whites and the West to non-Whites and the Global South in a suicide pat for the West.

For a dignified White person who cares about their people and their homeland, 'christianity' offers nothing.

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James's avatar

You've just described Catholicism which is the original and true Christianity, well done. The Catholic church selected the books of the Bible and claims the right and the obligation to interpret scripture. You've made the Z man's point about protestantism and liberalism.

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Boulevardier's avatar

I agree that the left has no positive vision for the country, it's basically an appeal to using power to take other people's stuff - either literally via taxes, or indirectly through political or cultural disenfranchisement. To a large extent it's because the left abandoned class/economic issues for racial/cultural ones, and the core supporters of the former (working class whites) are the target of the latter. Long ago I worked for a labor Dem who represented a mostly white urban union district and that variety of politician is basically extinct and the national party has run a huge share of his former base out of the party.

That said, now that the left is no longer trying to build anything but just destroy that does raise real concerns in my mind that serious political violence is not far off. The 2020 campaign of leftist domestic terrorism was successful at its goals, although that was short circuited because of Biden's infirmity and 2024 loss. All the same, his Administration was stuffed full of people determined to pursue policies that would further atomize the country. The unhinged reactions of the left to DOGE and deportations makes me think the old networks that brought us the Summer of Floyd are gearing up again, although thankfully this time around Trump and the rest of the right appears to understand it's basically victory or death in the political and cultural battles we face. Hopefully if Transtifa or the like rears its head he simply declares them a domestic terror organization and sends planeloads of them to El Salvador. For the organizations behind them like 501c4 and 501c3s, it's got to be stripping them of their tax exempt status and other forms of legal warfare.

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Yacheng's avatar

The perfect post for St Paddy’s Day. The Left suffers from a collective form of Irish Alzheimer’s, they forget everything but the grudges.

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alexsyd's avatar

I doubt it's Christianity, or even Protestantism, that is the root of our current state of resentment. The ancient Greeks strove for perfection in images of the gods whereas Christians – and especially Protestants – have deeply suspicious ideas concerning idols, and in fact have engaged in the destruction of images, a condition of hysteria called iconoclasm. But, in both ancient pagan and earlier Christian belief they had a sense of the sacred as something beyond this world.

The peculiar nature of modern liberalism is that the sacred appears only in this world and in the form of various vicitm groups.

For example, it's why we had the George Floyd riots, with images of the martyr, Floyd, and the scapegoat, Derek Chauvin (literally early 17th century – denoting a hangman, also the gallows – from Derrick, the surname of a London hangman; and Chauvin, late 19th century: named after Nicolas Chauvin, a Napoleonic veteran noted for his extreme patriotism, popularized as a character by the Cogniard brothers in Cocarde Tricolore [1831]). Derek Chauvin, the patriotic hangman of the ancient [former] regime.

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Ripple's avatar

And taken on by the feminists with the epithet "male chauvinist pig."

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alexsyd's avatar

Yes, good point.

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