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Joel-NC's avatar

One look at Cofnas and I can tell there is no way I am going to watch him talk for 3 hrs.

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Richard W Siers's avatar

"Once any group hits a critical mass of people whose instinct is to be in the center of the group, the group is then defined by the fights to be as close to the center as possible. The expert class becomes a collapsing star. "

That is an insightful explanation for just about any group, and in an age where complexity has reached such levels that truly understanding a thing is close to impossible, the human herd mentality guarantees that there will be only the amplification of ever more zealous subgroups.

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Bizarro Man's avatar

Another way to describe it is disappearing up their own collective backside, or a reverse ourabouros.

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John k's avatar

OK this is r

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John k's avatar

Ridiculous. For my BSEE my project was to help a professor in the lab. MSEE project was. A standalone hardware/software project. Since S/W is taking over everything I have gotten IT certs. My engineering license required examination after 4 years.

The issue is not credentials, it is a low trust, no shame, scam ridden society where almost everything is a grift. Influencer is a polite farm for shill. It is all based on where the money comes from. Hell, I can’t set myself apart having worked on questionable enterprises from nuke plants to wind farms.

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Eugine Nier's avatar

You're confusing credentials with IQ.

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Halftrolling's avatar

I saw the term “deprofessionalization” getting bandied around in the gamer space and I gotta say it has a nice ring to it. Like a dekulakization but based.

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Christopher Chantrill's avatar

Experts agree that credentialism and the administrative state go together like, er, lets see... peanut butter and jelly?

But credentialism is much more civilized, darling, than Mayor Daley politics, when, according to John Kass: "It's the Irish first, and everyone else is a Polack."

Or DEI politics.

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Torin McCabe's avatar

Getting rid of dei departments is a rather simple thing to implement. Fixing credentialism is monumentally complex. Once you move beyond the midwitism of "credentialism bad, let's get rid of it.". Okay how do we implement it? What are the trade-offs? Attacking cofnas rather than attempting to come up with an actual solution is intellectually disgusting for anyone with an IQ over 115 whose brain has not been rotted by ideology and tribalism

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Bizarro Man's avatar

We do it the way it used to be done. People built their reputations by performing. Licensing and credentialism are ways that mediocrities and charlatans can monopolize fields of endeavor, excluding those who otherwise would best them in fair competition.

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Halftrolling's avatar

Bring back iq and aptitude tests for starters. Everyone gets the same relatively quick test and if you fail then sucks to suck.

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John k's avatar

All “tests” can be gamed. If Harvard admitted solely on any type of test it would be 75% Asian. Anyway as a private institution they should be able to admit who they want.

The most elite private schools in NYC have a target of 10% black, cuz the parents want it that way. They want their kids to be exposed to “diversity” n not be intimidated as adults.

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Halftrolling's avatar

Every institution should be able to admit (and exclude) whoever they want for any reason.

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John k's avatar

No, state institutions should adhere to the constitution.

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Torin McCabe's avatar

Yep, that's good step forward but the people at Harvard who are are enemies have high IQs. It's a very complex problem and we have to start expecting the smart people that are on our side to come up with smart solutions

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Halftrolling's avatar

You mean the ones who can’t read or…

A huge issue is the current college system being overly costly, extremely left leaning, and having a tendency to lock out those with conflicting beliefs. Doing an end run around it via testing would obliterate it even quicker than its already collapsing.

Removing the lefts ability to enforce cultural conformity via the credentialing mills would be an massive W

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Torin McCabe's avatar

If we shrink collage enrollment by 90%. How is that going to affect Harvard that only lets in the top 0.1%? I am for IQ tests replacing most college but are you aware that this is actually a very complex problem with no simple solutions?

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Crixcyon's avatar

The death of experts...it's about time and the influencers can go too.

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